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AHIRNG - Audio Hardware Interface Random Number Generator
Posted by: gunne on Sunday, December 25, 2005 - 13:15
Submitted by gunne
AHIRNG, v 1.1 is available. AHIRNG is a tool to generate a REAL random number from a soundcard.

    Requirements:
  • MorphOS v1.x
  • AHI 4.x
  • Analoge noise source

Find further information and the software here at: Rupert "naTmeg" Hausberger Home Page


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Re: AHIRNG - Audio Hardware Interface Random Number Generator

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by dholm on Dec 25, 2005 - 14:21
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Real random numbers in CS is a myth!


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by kozz on Dec 25, 2005 - 17:08
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/dev/random is the shit ;)

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by dholm on Dec 25, 2005 - 17:42
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It's still just a pseudo random number generator though.

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by naTmeg on Dec 25, 2005 - 17:52
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No, its not a pseudo one. PRNG are based on mathematical functions.

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by kozz on Dec 25, 2005 - 20:04
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Well, /dev/random uses the hardware in the computer to generate random numbers, like from the harddrive, cpu temp, network etc. (if I understand it correctly) while /dev/urandom uses matmatically forumlas to generate random number. Therefor /dev/random can run out of random number while /dev/urandom always will be able to produce more.

I do not however know the defintion of what a pseudo random generator is so...

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by dholm on Dec 25, 2005 - 22:00
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It's not truly random because if you have a computer with the exact same hardware which is running under the same conditions (temperature, audio input etc) you could theoretically recreate the same sequence of numbers that you have on computer one and therefore potentially crack encryption relying on the fact that the random numbers generated by computer one are independent of the sequence generated on other computers.

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by naTmeg on Dec 25, 2005 - 22:13
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Fact is, that it's absolute impossible to generate the same sequence of numbers from a high quality pink/white-noise source. There is no inital seed like in prng's and no point where you 'start' from.

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by dholm on Dec 25, 2005 - 22:31
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"impossible" is a very strong word. Some would say, too strong.

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by naTmeg on Dec 25, 2005 - 23:27
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May your rigth, so lets say: it's very very hard :)

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by gunne on Dec 26, 2005 - 00:08
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Hi naTmeg,

This is an interesting tool from you. I played around little bit with its interface, to see how it works. I guess other software tool might take use of this tool.

Also the MorphUP Package Manager system by you is interesting. Here I guess some kind of tutorial in how to take use of it from a users point of view should be very much needed.

I feel MorphOS is getting more and more interesting all the time. It is lot of various small tools showing up all the time.

The bounty system seems to be of good, as the developer can get at least some feedback for his/hers work in this way.

Gunne

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Re: AHIRNG - Audio Hardware Interface Random Number Generator

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by gunne on Dec 25, 2005 - 15:13
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Changed the version number to 1.1, as its the current version.

Gunne

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